Wiliam Gheen and Jim Gilchrist buddy buddy

Wiliam Gheen and Jim Gilchrist buddy buddy

Controversy over an Everett woman charged with two killings in Arizona now has the national leaders of anti-illegal immigration groups calling one another idiots.

The sheriff’s department in Pima County, Ariz., has alleged Forde led the raid believing Flores was a drug trafficker, and she could net money to support her Minutemen American Defense group

Even before the shootings Forde was a polarizing figure for people who endorse the idea that self-styled Minutemen engaged in surveillance and patrols are part of the solution to illegal immigration, human smuggling and drug trafficking along on the U.S.-Mexico border. Forde conducted border watches and patrols in Arizona, and was an ally of Jim Gilchrist, founder of the Orange County, Calif.-based Minutemen Project.

An e-mail obtained by The Herald shows that Gilchrist was one of 17 people Forde apparently wanted contacted if she was arrested or killed after the Arivaca homicides. Last week, Gilchrist acknowledged that he’d been told Forde was wanted for questioning by police prior to her arrest in Arizona. He said he called her about eight days before she was captured, but she denied being in trouble.

He’s since publicly withdrawn all support for Forde.

Forde was arrested June 12 by FBI agents and others at a roadblock about a mile from the Sierra Vista, Ariz., ranch owned by Glenn Spencer of American Border Patrol, a group that monitors the border using cameras and aerial surveillance. Spencer last week said Forde was taken into custody after she’d made a brief, uninvited stop at his home. He said he’d broken ties with her a year earlier.

On Monday, William Gheen, president of ALIPAC — Americans for Legal Immigration — posted on his group’s Web site a repudiation of Gilchrist and Spencer in which he flatly accused them of assisting Forde after the Arivaca killings.

“We warned the nation and all group leaders, including Spencer and Gilchrist, about Shawna Forde many months before these murders,” Gheen wrote.

The warnings did appear on Gheen’s group’s Web site earlier this year and largely regurgitated reports by The Herald that raised questions about Forde’s link to a string of violent incidents in Everett. At the time, police were investigating the Dec. 29 shooting of Forde’s ex-husband, her claim that she’d was beaten and raped a week later by people she suggested were connected to Mexican drug cartels, and her own gunshot injury Jan. 15 in an Everett alley. Everett police recently said they’ve ceased investigating Forde’s rape report based on insufficient evidence.

Spencer on Monday denied that he got any warning about Forde from Gheen, and asserted that he didn’t need one anyway because he’d long before decided against associating with her. After her rape report Spencer wrote that he told his staff again that Forde “was unstable and not welcome as a guest on the ranch.”

Spencer added:

The idea that I would put the reputation of American Border Patrol at risk by assisting someone that I knew to be unstable is outrageous and slanderous … By making these totally false accusations with no evidence whatsoever to back them up, Mr. Gheen has proven himself to be unprofessional and exploitative of the problems of unfortunate people like Shawna Forde. He is doing this to make money by tearing his ‘competitors’ down, pure and simple.
“There is really only one way to deal with people like Mr. Gheen and it is not to mince words. To wit: Wm. Gheen is an idiot,” he added.

On Gheen’s Web site there is more cross fire today, including a post that describes Spencer and an employee as idiots, too.

Gheen has been contacting reporters since Forde’s arrest, arguing that readers aren’t being told enough about the difference among those in border-watch groups, particularly when it came to support of Forde.

“Outside of the media, to my knowledge, nobody has done more before these murders to stop Shawna Forde,” Gheen said of himself during a recent interview. He said his group raised doubts about Forde’s claims of being attacked in Everett. He noted that Gilchrist stood by her, even after The Herald published a story detailing the woman’s troubled past. The article also contained Forde’s acknowledgment that she’d privately been telling police that local street toughs — not drug cartel killers — likely were behind the violence involving herself and her ex-husband this winter in Everett.

Questioning Forde’s story at the time was the right thing to do, Gheen said.
“If I had not done that, the Shawna story would have gone nuclear through our movement,” he said.

Gheen is in panic mode as this occurred during his semi annual beg-a-thon, where he fleeces his followers of money to maintain his lifestyle and promote hatred against Mexicans. Gheen only sent out his warning, after he determined that it would be in his self serving interest to do so, and further his feud with Jim Gilchrist. William Gheen does nothing that doesn’t benefit William Gheen!

For Gheen, this is nothing new

SOURCE: Scott North/Everett Herald
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    TruthBrigade is a trivial org run by “crazy’ Christie C whose limited militia club and she hates Gilchrist as badly as SDMM bikini Jeff Schwilk, who was her boyfriend (many proof videos on You Tube) and she lived with him for many years, until their violent break-up. She hates Gilchrist (in her weird victim reasoning) because Gilchrist didn’t take her side in the anti-Schwilk their private relationship matters. Schwilk and Christie are two of a crazy militia “Ted the bomber” kind. That is why the national news media doesn’t interview or talk to either, just Gilchrist. Gilchrist is a leader, they aren’t. Gheen is just a crazy.

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    Truth Brigade, Christie,

    What more can you tell us about the Jeff Schwilk and Shawna Forde connection?

    Anything will help. Any Stonex or Gunny Bush connection to Schwilk?

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    Minuteman Founder Jim Gilchrist Stayed In Contact With Accused Killer After Murders

    By Patrick Young, Esq. CARECEN June 28, 2009 11:49 AM

    A new report in the Arizona Star says that Minuteman co-founder Jim Gilchrist stayed in touch with accused killer Shawna Forde after she ordered the killings of a ten year old girl and her father. The article says that:

    On June 2, three days after the murders, Gilchrist received an e-mail from a Southern Arizona associate who had been visited by investigators looking for Forde. Gilchrist forwarded the e-mail to Forde, he said.

    He said he called her and asked if there was a warrant for her arrest. She said no.

    Now let's look at the implication of this. In most worlds, we would call this "tipping off the perpetrator" that the cops were on her trail.

    Gilchrist could had kept the report to himself. Or he could have sent Forde an open-ended inquiry asking if she was having any problems. He didn't. He sent her his associates full report letting her know that the police on her trail, something she might not have known at the time.

    Now, those of you who read this site regularly know that last week I posted a report from the Green Valley News that presents information that is more troubling now than when it first appeared. The post refered to Gilchrist and the current Executive Director of the Minuteman Project, Steven Eichler's continued communications with Shawna Forde after the May 20 murders:

    Another “Message from Forde,” since removed, was posted eight days after the May 30 murders of Flores and his 9-year-old daughter, Brisenia, but several days before Forde, Jason Eugene “Gunny” Bush and Albert Gaxiola were arrested in the case. It introduced Bush as MAD’s new operations director and stated, “We are in full operation we have people coming from Florida and other parts of the country to assist in gathering exclusive footage of drug cartel drug smuggling and humane (sic) trafficking.”

    Forde sent the article to Gilchrist and Eichler on June 6 via an e-mail obtained by the Green Valley News.

    Eichler responded in the e-mail the next day, writing, “Do you want a large volumne (sic) of volunteers to go to the border under your watch? If you are going to expand, then you will get all the way from lawn chair lookie lous to hard core combat ready Minutemen.”

    In an interview, Eichler said he remembered the correspondence, but had no idea then that Forde might have been involved in the murders. Hindsight is 20-20, he said, but nothing tipped him off to Forde’s potential for violence.

    “We facilitated the publicizing of her organization like we’ve facilitated many others,” he said. “We want to work with as many people as we can. But in doing so, there is still that risk.”

    So Eichler claimed in an inteview after the arrests that he had "no idea that Forde might have been involved in the murders" at the time he offered her "combat ready Minutemen", but his ally Gilchrist had received word from an "associate" a week earlier that the Feds were looking for Forde. Why wouldn't this information have set off the kind of alarms that would at least have precluded the sending of additional Minutemen to serve "under her watch"?

    Since both Eichler and Gilchrist were both recipients of Forde's June 6 missive, why wouldn't Gilchrist have weighted in with caution on reinforcing a Minuteman leader being investigated by the police?

    More Links to the Minuteman Murders

    Since the police first revealed the Minuteman connection to the murders of ten year Brisenia Flores and her father Raul, Long Island Wins has provided intensive coverage of this story. Here is an index of the most important articles we've posted:

    The Crime

    The shocking murder of a little girl and her father focused our attention on recent Minuteman activities in Arizona.

    The 911 call by a mother who had just seen her husband and child murdered.

    Excerpts from the police reports on the murder investigation.

    Anti-Immigrant Groups Deny Ties To Shawna Forde, The Mastermind Of The Murders

    Although Forde was a part of Minuteman from its early years, anti-immigrant groups around the country immediately branded her an insignificant figure, in spite of ample evidence to the contrary.

    More on Shawna Forde's extensive connections with anti-immigrant groups.

    While the Minutemen depict her as a minor figure, their own web site described Shawna Forde as a person in the leadership.

    Shawna Forde had close ties to Jim Gilchrist, co-founder of the Minutemen. Is Gilchrist an important figure in that movement?

    This article looks at Gilchrist's communications with Forde after the killings.

    Inside The Mind Of Shawna Forde

    Video interview with Shawna Forde on "patrol" along the border.

    Shawna Forde's blog from the Tea Party a month before the killings.

    The Glenn Spencer Connection

    Glenn Spencer, one of the founders of the "border protection movement" and the man who inspired Suffolk's anti-immigrant movement had ties to Shawna Forde. She was arrested nearly two weeks after the killings immediately after visiting him.

    Glenn Spencer speaks out on the Minuteman murders.

    The Minutemen Speak

    The weird response of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps to the media coverage of the murders.

    Suffolk County Executive Steve Levy And The Minutemen

    Steve Levy's endorsement in 2006 by the founder of the Minutemen.

    Steve Levy and the Suffolk Minutemen.

    The New York Times covers the Minuteman murders.