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Another humiliating defeat for ALIPAC and William Gheen

Published on 2009/12/18 by

ALIPAC's Willy Gheen complaining to a WRAL news reporter how he should have been number one to speak, but for all the "ileegals" highjacking the hearing. In the end, the groundswell of support for the proposal, drowned out Willies pathetic whines.

ALIPAC's Willy Gheen complaining to a WRAL news reporter how he should have been number one to speak, but for all the "ileegals" highjacking the hearing. In the end, the groundswell of support for the proposal, drowned out Willies pathetic whines.

ALIPAC’s William Gheen is in apparent seclusion tonight after his humiliation before the North Carolina Community College Board, which voted in September to allow undocumented immigrants to attend their 58 colleges.

In a packed hearing room of the State Archives building, supporters of this proposal outnumbered opponents 9 to 1. 51 of the 57 signed up to speak were in favor of the proposition.

Willy Gheen had spent the week sending out nonsensical press releases and hedging his bets by making outrageous assertions such as the following, which he continued to repeat today.

Friends of ALIPAC,

We have received fresh information that pro-illegal immigration groups have activated their national networks via e-mails and phone text alerts to rally the illegal alien supporters to attend tomorrow’s meeting in Raleigh.

We also believe chances are high that they will bus in Latino students to make emotional appeals during the public input period.

THE ILLEGAL ALIENS AND THEIR SUPPORTERS ARE TELLING THEIR PEOPLE TO ARRIVE AT 9am., however, the meeting does not start until 10am. THEY MAY INTEND TO TAKE ALL THE SEATS BY COMING EARLY.

We know that 80% of North Carolina citizens agree with us. We know that 99% of those of you receiving this e-mail agrees with us. Our years spent building up our e-mail contact list tells us we have the numbers to dwarf our opposition at this meeting and win this round.

Willy knew what time the meeting was to start so he began this release off with a lie. And the numbers he quotes; 80% of North Carolinians agree with him, seems preposterous also. It would appear from the turnout, that 92% support human and civil rights for undocumented immigrants, something Willy can’t get through his pig head.

Willy came out on his website and on local TV claiming the hearing was rigged in favor of supporters of the proposal, when in fact, they opened the doors early to let folks in out of the cold and begin to sign them up, and issue numbers for the order they would speak. Willy made a big deal out of it though. Any opportunity to blame an immigrant or a pro reformist, he won’t pass up.

Willy was # 35 to speak and it must of been difficult for him to sit there and listen to the 34 ahead of him. giving their support to a proposal that is the right thing to do.

In September, Willy was only able to muster 5 of his “30,000″ supporters to protest this proposal. This time, it appears that Willy was a committee of one.

This is the same issue that brought us Whining Willy back in 2005, as explained in this excerpt about Gheen

in April 2005 to form ALI-PAC in order to fight against the passage of House Bill 1138, which would have allowed certain non-citizens to qualify for in-state tuition rates at publicly funded North Carolina colleges and universities. Gheen disparagingly and falsely referred to the “Access to Higher Education and A Better Economic Future Act” as “in-state tuition for illegal aliens.”

The bill was only sought to grant in-state tuition to immigrants who had graduated from high school after attending four consecutive years of public school in North Carolina and who supplied a sworn affidavit showing they were in the country legally and had applied for citizenship. By the time Gheen and his misinformation machine were finished, however, many North Carolina lawmakers and journalists, let alone average residents, were convinced the proposed law would instantly offer in-state tuition to any Mexican who hopped the border.

As a result, daily newspapers and TV stations began asking misleading poll questions. CBS affiliate WRAL Channel 5 News queried people about “a bill that would give children of illegal immigrants in-state tuition.” The Wilmington Star asked readers, “Should children of illegal immigrants get in-state tuition rates at N.C. colleges?” without mentioning the necessary qualifications or that children born on U.S. soil are automatically citizens under the U.S. Constitution. The polls skewed heavily against the bill, and in the end it was soundly defeated.

That was his one success amongst a host of massive failures. The events of today in North Carolina show just how irrelevant and marginalized Willy Gheen has become, and is one of just many more in his future.

Here’s the news video of the event. Willy has about 15 seconds of face time.
Whining Willy on WRAL

In the end, the board agreed to put the policy into place at it’s next meeting in April 2010.

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  • AnnaMarie

    Most of these comments are incorrect. I am of native descent and a vet to boot, and an active member of ALIPAC, NUMBER USA, FAIR, & NPI. I am all for stopping illegals from entering this country no matter where they are from. People should not come here asking our country to change. If they like the customs of where they came from then go back to it. America was a once great country and melting pot because those coming here came for change and to contribute. The recent wave of illegals do not want to assimilate. They come to take advantage and the citizens of the USA are getting tired of footing the bill. The ILLEGALS all need to just return home and apply to come in the right way, learn the language before hand, and make every effort to contribute and not take from those they hope to welcome them.

    • Advocate

      If you are involved with those groups Anna Marie, you have our sympathy, for falling for all the hated and bullshit the espouse, especially Whining Willy Gheen.

      I too am a USAF veteran for what it's worth.

      Most of you have no idea about illegal immigration other than what you're told to believe by the nativist xenophobes you choose to follow. Most wouldn't know an "illegal" if you were standing beside them on the sidewalk and most assuredly, the illegals, Willies "illegals" (read that Mexicans) have had very little, if any impact on the lives of normal Americans.

      How do you know they don't want to assimilate? Because they choose to speak their language when their with their own people? Ever been in a Chinatown around the country, or a Little Saigon? Yet everyone believes these folks have assimilated.

      And how are they taking advantage of the citizens of the USA? By taking shit jobs that most Americans feel is beneath their station in life to do? Perhaps you and others should pull your head out of the sand and start thinking for yourself instead of allowing jackasses like William Gheen to guide your thoughts and opinions.

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  • Veronica

    Jim Gilchrist has this to say about about Naui: "And he does usually show up at events with a white woman alongside, albeit just as misinformed as he is, so he is attempting to cure himself of that “racist” tag."

    LOL! I actually showed up to protests before I met Naui. Ironically, I found Naui via video links posted on the S.O.S. forums years ago and followed them to youtube where I discovered his vids and became good friends. Naui has MANY white friends, but not for the sake of trying to "cure" some silly misconception put out there by the likes of the minutemen and their supporters.

  • Veronica

    Crazy Willy G. making a fool out of himself yet again. lol

  • Advocate

    Gheen claims NC Illegal Immigrant College Access Meeting was rigged!

    And why are we surprised. Here's some of his ludicrous accusations:

    First,the meeting was placed on a workday morning the Friday before Christmas, when taxpayers that are working would be unable to attend.

    Here's a clue Willy. The ones who planned the meeting planned it to coincide with their workday. What did you want? It planned around your schedule?

    Second, there were no NC Community College Board members even present at this meeting! It appears they could not even take time off to be there and the crowd was assured that our comments would be delivered to the board members and they would receive and review all of our comments and letters. Pretty shabby that not one board member attended the meeting.

    How would Willy know this? He chose not to participate. Instead, the little media whore chose to stand outside the meeting room and pander to whatever media he could get to listen to him. To wit:

    Instead of using my three minutes to make my points on this matter, I spent my three minutes warning the public and the press that the political theater they were witnessing in the room was rigged and not representative of the views of the public.

    Yep, everyone conspired against, lied about and prevented Whining Willy from making a spectacle of himself.

  • Minute Man Pete

    The bad guy loses.

    • Advocate

      They always do!

  • Lucy

    It's a humiliating defeat for all Americans.

    Our government has told us to go to hell once again.

    • Advocate

      No Lucy, it's a WIn for America. Denying education to anyone is a defeat.

      Most of these kids who would take advantage of this proposal have the fire in the gut to succeed.

      And under the proposal, they pay outrageous out of state tuition, and are only allowed in after citizens have first choice of classes.

  • http://www.minutemanproject.com Jim Gilchrist, Presi

    Dear Americans (including you extremists on both the ultra-right and the ultra-left),

    If "Willy the Whale" Gheen had not been such a divisive element in the immigration law enforcement advocacy movement he would have had several other independent minuteman organizations supporting him and ALIPAC. Instead, he ushered in "the Minuteman Wars" by routinely attacking other groups who would not goose-step to his ideology and pay him homage as some kind of bogus savior of mankind. Also, Gheen intentionally fails to include persons of all races, colors, and creeds, etc. in his organization.

    And, finally, anyone with such an incurable hatred towards wounded U.S. combat veterans will never have friends in mainstream America. He is either jealous of those of us who fought in U.S. wars because he never served his country in any military capacity, or, he despises veterans as a foolish and unintelligent segment of U.S. society.

    I wonder if Gheen now regrets sponsoring a "destroy Gilchrist and the MInuteman Project" campaign back in 2007…a campaing that continues to this day? Not too bright. Anyone who wants to knock out their allies to appease their egos, or satisfy their greed for sole access to a public donor base, will never succeed in their cause. Like the racist/fascist notorious Jeff Schwilk of the San Diego Minutemen (SDMM), Willy Gheen is a major public failure when it comes to addressing the immigration issue.

    But, in all fairness, Naui and the Brown Berets are no different. They, like Schwilk's SDMM and Gheen's ALIPAC, are as racist, fascist, sexist and "phobic" as the Black Panthers, the American Indian Movement (AIM), the Nazis, the KKK, the Jewish Defense League (JDL), the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), the Asian Gangs, and dozens of other extremists shuffling around the country.

    However, I am less likely to be pummeled or murdered by Naui than I am by Gheen or Schwilk, in my humble opinion. :) Naui may be a nuisance, misinformed, uninformed, or earnestly trying to provoke someone to punch his lights out, but he has never been violent in the many times I have encountered him. And he does usually show up at events with a white woman alongside, albeit just as misinformed as he is, so he is attempting to cure himself of that "racist" tag.

    A final word of advise to Gheen and Schwilk: If you want to play to win, you must play fair, not mean.

    Jim Gilchrist, President, The Minuteman Project

    -- A multi ethnic immigration law enforcement advocacy group —

  • http://www.ocweekly.com/ Gustavo Arellano

    And don't forget: Billy Gheen is a nasty homophobe, to boot.

    • http://www.minutemanproject.com/ Jim Gilchrist, Presi

      Gus,

      How do you know Willy the Whale is homophobic?

    • Advocate

      Tell us more Gustavo. I wasn't aware of this, but it's not surprising. Gheen hates anyone who doesn't walk in lockstep with him or share his vision for Amerika. "If it ain't white, it can't be right"!

  • Tina

    BOO YEAH!