Forde playing Bunny and Clod in the desert of Arizona.

Forde playing Bunny and Clod in the desert of Arizona.

More details are emerging about the testimony of key witness Oin Oakstar in the brutal murders of Raul Flores and 9 year old Brisenia Flores, now certainly committed by Shawna Forde and her confederates, Albert Gaxiola and Jason Eugene Bush.

The details are contained in dozens of pages of court papers filed Feb. 9 in Pima County Superior Court and recounted in detail by our friend Scott North of the Everett Herald

Gaxiola’s attorneys went into court on that date to ask Judge Leonardo to reconsider a December ruling that cleared the way for prosecutors to seek the death penalty for the three.

They say Gaxiola’s case must be considered separately because he wasn’t in the home at the time of the killings, and “is clearly and unequivocally in a separate and distinct situation than are Shawna Forde and Jason Bush.”

From the Everett Herald Report:

Oakstar was arrested within hours of the Flores killings after people in Arivaca directed suspicion his way.

In a Sept. 25 statement to prosecutors, Oakstar said his arrest came as he was walking home from a post-raid meeting in Gaxiola’s house with Forde and Bush. He said he gave Bush pain pills and was nervous because Bush kept one of his hands hidden under a blanket.

Oakstar said he had only just met the pair, but at Gaxiola’s urging had earlier driven them past the Flores home on a scouting trip.

Oakstar reportedly told police there had been some talk about using force to eliminate Raul Flores as a threat during the holdup, including use of a sniper, but there was no plan to harm the man’s family.

In court papers, Gaxiola’s lawyers argued that the Oakstar statement suggests what happened to the Flores family was not of Gaxiola’s making and he should not be at risk of death for alleged actions by Bush and Forde.

Oakstar told prosecutors that first Bush, then Forde, recounted what happened during the raid:

“I was standing in the doorway of the bedroom when she came in and I kinda put my back to the wall ‘cause I was still keeping an eye on Jason’s hand that he had under the blanket. And she came around and was standing to my right and she started to explain that things had gone to shit, that it didn’t work out, that, um, they had gotten in a shoot out, and that Junior (Raul Flores) was dead, that his daughter was dead, but his wife was still alive.”

Oakstar said he told Forde and Bush that they had “messed up,” that “you can’t shoot women and kids.” He said Forde and Bush told him “it just happened that way.”

According to court papers, Raul Flores was shot a total of six times; with bullets striking his head, chest and right arm. Brisenia Flores was shot twice in the face, including one shot fired so close the gun’s barrel touched her cheek.

AND FROM THE LUNATIC FRINGE

Roberta Dills aka “Laine Lawless” continues to put her fantasies about Shawna Forde online in an effort to gain support for this murdering bitch. And if there is the slightest hint of the truth to the following, which we doubt, the treatment that Forde is allegedly receiving while incarcerated, is entirely attributable to Dill’s effort to gain sympathy and support for her.

Here’s the first of three ludicrous contentions.

1. Why is Shawna still in jail?
2. Why is she being subjected to repeated violations of her rights?
3. Why has Larsen allowed his client to be repeatedly stripped NAKED, subjected to extreme humiliation by MALE guards, denied adequate medical attention, and tortured by 9 MONTHS of solitary confinement?

1. Because she murdered a 9 year old child and her father and shot the mother, and would have killed the other daughter had she not been staying with her grandmother?

2. See number one and she is certainly being granted more rights than Brisenia and Raul were granted.

3. This probably only occurs in Roberta Dills nighttime fantasies. Although they strip search them when they return from court or visits. Such is the life of an inmate charged with murder. Since she just returned from a cushy stay in the infirmary, the denial of medical attention is a ruse.

Roberta Dill’s then makes this post as if it is coming from the mouth of Shawna Forde. Maybe it is and maybe it isn’t. Forde has already shown her stupidity in so many ways.

Forde to Dupnik: “I don’t negotiate with terrorists!”

Shawna Forde, National Director of Minutemen American Defense, Treated Like a POW
of the Drug Cartel Border Wars

After a frustrating and fruitless 9 month attempt to get the jail to give her her civil rights, and adequate medical attention, Shawna Forde fired a broadside at Sheriff Clarence Dupnik, Dungeon Master of Pima County Jail. On February 18, she was taken out of the infirmary and told she was going to be given AS1 status, meaning she could get hot water (so that she could treat her injured arm with hot compresses), and experience the federally-mandated 30 minutes a day of outside yard time.

Instead Shawna ended up in H Pod, known as “the hole,” where she has been kept for almost all of her time in the jail. Dupnik reserves H Pod for prisoners with problems. Dupnik has had all the cell windows blacked out for further physical punishment. This is extreme sensory deprivation. Shawna, a model inmate, was promised a better, less restrictive status and then was thrown in “the hole.” This is psychological abuse by mind control manipulators.

After just 2 days in H pod, Shawna was written up twice for talking to other detainees. She counseled an inmate who was on the verge of being put on suicide watch, convincing her to resist repeated attempts by staff to make her act out. Shawna is now back in the infirmary, and she has been “stripped,” meaning she is naked 24 hours a day in her cell. Everything has been taken away from her, including writing materials and her reading glasses, Without the ability to read and write, and to access the law library, Shawna is unable to participate in her own defense. Shawna is cut off from everything but the concrete floor and the bare metal bed frame. She has no communication with the outside world.

Lt. Meister, who put her in there, attempted to further terrorize Shawna by telling her he was in charge of her and that medical staff would not be allowed to intervene, whether she became ill, was beaten, or even if she was on the verge of death. Dupnik prefers to keep female inmates naked for 12 brutal days, hot or cold. Lt. Meister told Shawna that she would remain stripped naked indefinitely. Who the hell gave Meister the authority to treat any inmate with such contempt and degradation? Shawna is still in solitary confinement and is forbidden to talk to anyone other than the COs. Dupnik’s Dungeon has got to be the first torture chamber in a county jail reserved exclusively for American women.

The Pima County Sheriff’s Department claims it has a “philosphy:” It is the philosophy of the Pima County Sheriff’s Department to maintain a detention facility that is not only humane and pro-active in its approach toward inmates, but also be an employer that has pride in our most important resource, our employees. Dupnik lies!

Shawna is not convicted of any crime; she is in Dupnik’s Dungeon because her credit card limit does not cover $1,000,000 for excessive bail.
Character assassinated by Dupnik, false arrested, indicted without probable cause, this flimsy case is an uphill battle for the legal defense. Can Shawna’s attorneys, Jill Thorpe and Eric Larsen, recognize that the issue is racial profiling, and Shawna’s only offense is being “blonde on the border?”

Again, her other offenses are numerous, including capital murder of a 9 year old child. What part of that don’t you get, you dizzy dyke?

But according to Pima County Inmate Lookup, Forde remains in the Infirmary, Room 10. Could this be further proof of Dills overactive imagination and problems with reality?

And then of course, on this other silly site Dills established for her “friend”, the paranoia and separation from reality is really evident.

Continuing to show the world that they really are “know nothings” and full of themselves, Dill’s posted this supposed interview with Forde, talking about border security. Imagine that!

Terrorism Predictions

February 4, 2010

Q: CIA Chief Leon Panetta has said there will be a terrorist attack in the U.S. in the next 3-6 months.Shawna, where do you think it will come from?

A: It won’t come from the border! Napolitano, DHS, and the Border Patrol know that radioactive materials have already been brought in by drug mules inside of drug packs. Some of the mules were taking marijuana out, rolling joints, smoking them, and then dying because the radiation was so intense. They come in, drop their packs into a well, and then someone else takes them the rest of the way into the interior.

The next terrorist attacks will come from within the U.S., as the terrorist cells and the materials are already here. Semi-trucks are going to be used to deliver some of the attacks, and the targets will be strategically spread out all over the U.S. They will be anywhere large numbers of people congregate, such as shopping malls, sports events, etc. It is likely that in the shopping malls gunmen will enter and shoot everyone in sight.

One thing people don’t realize is that drug cartel violence or terroristic activities are not just occurring in places like Mexico; this violence is here in America right now. Americans go to Mexico to perform cartel hits, just as Mexicans come here to do the same. In some cases, the cartels use native-born Americans to perform their executions here in the United States. So not only do we have to be concerned about the enemy south of the border, we need to look at the enemies within.

2010 will be a challenging year, and it will get worse before it will get better.

Perhaps Dills is assisting Forde in preparing for an insanity defense. These claims are certainly insane enough.

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  • Roguemex

    Todd Hezlitt did a interview with anti-illegal activist Pat Dollard. Of whom writes and works with Andrew Briebart. Brietbart.com. The interview was about Shawna and Todd Hezlitt's connection with the murders and home invasions he is suspect to. The interview shows Todd Hezlitt was never charged in any of these crimes. Other than the blogs stating he was related to the crimes there was no physical evidence tying him to even being a member of the minuteman. Todd Hezlitt left the PCSO ( Pima County Sheriff Dept.) to return to military duty because he didn't support the ethical practices of the dept. So did Todd Hezlitt realize the extreme ways of the PCSO and left and is just falling victim to quick concluding slanderous blogs????? Todd Hezlitt has a war record of serving his country and does state " I moved to Three Points to help fight against the illegals coming into America and drain our nation while they commit numerous crimes here. And protect my country. " I think everyone should take a step back and investigate this further. I googled Todd Hezlitt and found loads of bias latino hatred towards Todd Hezlitt. Yet its all based on here say. None of it seems to be factual. It is a shame that some take the freedom of speech in which as a military member like Todd Hezlitt helps to provide , gets strung up (by people of the latino and liberal sectors of our community. ) by slanderous keyboard commando's. Considering Todd Hezlitt also has a extensive martial arts background that almost matches Bruce Lee or Chuck Norris I guarantee none of you have faced him with these rumors. You stay at home in the security of your own homes and type away. It is good to see people like Pat Dollard are willing to interview people like Todd Hezlitt and set the story straight. For these are the good Americans that our nation relies on. More people should take advantage of this and show the truth. I looked up how many home invasions happen in Tucson , Arizona before and after Shawna's home invasion. Our hispanic latino community pray on our own and its terrifying. Shawna's home invasion was just a repeated act of many. Business as usual. And Shawna worked with another drug dealer to knock off the other. How pathetic. Yet the latino community is quick to hang Todd Hezlitt. Figures. Make it racial. Merrill Meztger ( Shawna's step brother and Rena Caudle ( Shawna's mother ) are just trying to suck up to the latino community because they are running scared shitless. I would to if a family member knocked of a drug cartel. They to are trying to place blame on something that their own family is responsible for. Claiming they were robbed by Todd Hezlitt. Saying they were victims. Again abuse of the freedom of speech. I would like to see the hispanic / latino community contact Todd Hezlitt and apologize for even dragging him in. Atleast they owe him that. So there is a picture of them. Do you think it may have been doctored? Considering all the other rhetoric , hell ya its a fake. If the hispanic / latino community want to represent themselves decently they would rescind all these slanderous blogs and rumors against Hezlitt and go after the real bad guys. Its a American shame and a latino shame to see such childish acts being done against people that have no reason to be strung up. Wake up everyone. This is America. Not time to be selfish.

  • Guest

    Hey update on Hezlitt. He is now part of a outlaw motorcycle club. Called Horde mc. You may want to look into this. May be how he is hiding so well after committing all these horrible crimes. Hope you guys find him.

  • Rena Caudle

    Todd Hezlett could very well be doing his own brand of home invasions. He didn't seem to be with Shawna and 'Gunny' Bush here in Redding. He was seen at a mini mart making a phone call to someone to come and pick him up. He also told Mrs. Myers that he was forced into doing what he was doing and that he would get them out of it. Now did that mean he would not let them be killed or what? We don't know. At least they are alive but I think it had more to do with being my friends than anything. I am not positive though. But , yes, he is wanted here. He also looks like the guy Shawna brought to my house and stayed here with her for three days. That shocked me to my toes and back, let me tell you. The picture of Hezlitt on the internet looked just like the guy. She presented him to us as her camera man that she had hired for the sumer. He may be in Alaska. She said she sent him there or was going to. So if anyone wants to down in those other areas want to they can pass it on to those in charge. Hello, Ms. Ollis. Thanks for your support. I am so sorry that you have been so hurt by my daughter. There are so many of you out there who have. You could probably start your own support group because of her. It is very sad and such a waste of life. Yes, Ms. Dill is hurting Shawna's case very much by printing the stuff she is printing. So many untruths. They will come back to bite her in the butt in the end. So my question is—Why are you doing this Shawna and Roberta???? It is plain suicide!!!!

    If I was in Shawna's place I would have someone with a better reputation than Dill helping me. Dill is more like helping herself. If she thinks she is going to get rich off Shawna she may be in for a supprise. But then again there are a lot of lose cannon's out there who are always half cocked.

  • mmetzger

    For someone having it so hard in jail she sure sounds like a happy person while talking to Roberta Dill (Laine Lawless) wannabe on the phone. She calls Roberta collect and Roberta records the calls and then posted it on this site here. It is a radio talk show here is the name of the show host. You can hear the phone call over the site and it sure sounds just like typical Shawna in good spirits. It does not sound like someone who is in hardships. Roberta you are no friend of my sister you corrupt bitch. You are hurting her more and more everyday . So keep up the good work and make sure that she is definantly hanged.

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  • Rena Caudle

    Shawna is at it again folks. I don't understand the lies. They are not doing her any good what-so-ever! She talks about hating drugs and pot so much but she told me that she made friends with one of the drug cartel and that she had done it through undercover work. She said she had to sit and do drugs with him to get him to trust her. Tell me, how many people out there would jeprodize their health and lives by doing that? I certainly wouldn't. She stole pain medication from her " good" friend Kathy ( last name witheld) and she stole a bunch from her brother ( Pain Meds for spinal biffida) and counted them out at my house. She proceeded to blame the thefts on her innocent nephew and stuck to that one even though Kathy caught her in the act. She has smoked pot with one of her brothers and one of her sisters a lot and wqith her ex-husband and his friends ( nif they really ever did do it because I got that one from her) John, if you read this I don't think bad of you as we liked you and I am not sure if I believe anything Shawna says about you after all this. She is a pathological story teller. It was my kids who told me a lot about Shawna's drug doings. Shawna just wanted the drug persons money and drugs as she was going to sell it herself so she could start a very dangerous compound and train very dangerous men to do her awful bidding of murder and mayhem.

  • Rena Caudle

    Does anyone know where Hezlett is? There is an apb out on him in Redding,Ca. He, Bush and Shawna held up a family of 3. The two men went to the door and posed as US Marshalls.. When they were invited in they pulled a gun on Pete and Lyn Myers and their mentally challenged son, Mathew. They were told by the men that they knew they had money in the house and wanted it. They made Mrs. Myers go and open the safe and give them the money. They were told not to call the police for a short period of time. Mrs. Myers finally got our her door and made it to next door where they called the police. We know Shawna was the driver of the get-a-way car. The two men, Hezlett and Bush, wiped off all their fingerprints and took all the batteries out of their phones. The one fingerprint they forgot to wipe off was on the cell phone. They wiped down any surface they may have touched. But it did no good. I knew who did it as soon as Lyn told me they were robbed. Shawna had been calling me for 4 days asking about Lyn and her family. The first call was for her address. She wanted to send Lyn some thank you products for making her a photo collage. So I gave it to her not knowing what she was up to. The 3 of them came to Ca a few days after the murders because they didn't get any money from the Flore's. Mr and Mrs Myers aren't into drugs, never have been. But they had $12,000 in their safe to help them keep their house through the recession. Now they are loosing it.This family has been turned upside down because of her. People don't let them get away with this. The police here have positive proof they were and committed the crime. They bhave everything they need to add to Shawna and Bushe's crimes to make their stay in jail longer. These people need sonme closure. If you know where this man is please call the police and help these innocent people. The only reason they were not killed is because they are my friends.

  • Minuteman

    Wasn’t Hezlitt who is in the photo , someone who not only was with Pima County and VFW but worked for Joe Adams. Who was a Bush goon in the eighties. I looked him up and he was the CIA’s mercenary. Anyone else look this up.

    • Advocate

      I have heard the same thing about Hezlitt. Thanks for the ID. I've been wondering who that was in the photo

    • mmetzger

      Todd Hezlitt is wanted by the police, if you know his where about please contact your local police dept. He is wanted here in California and I believe in AZ. Not to sure about that one. He is wanted as a participant in the burglaries of my home and my mothers friends.

      • Minuteman

        I thought he was wanted in Washington and Arizona? I did not know that he was wanted in California as well. Wow. Were they able to tie Hezlitt to the crimes there. If he worked for this Joe Adams do you think both of them would be involved in the home invasion and burglaries? Seems likely.

        • mmetzger

          MInuteman,

          He is wanted in California for breaking and entering and robbery by gun point here in my town also. I know that he is wanted in Arizona for questioning. He was identified here as one of the people who broke into my moms friends home and held them at gun point while the other got the safe.

          He may be involved in the murders but I doubt it. As said in a earlier post if anyone knows the where abouts of Todd Hezlitt please contact your local police and turn him in he is wanted and dangerous !

        • mmetzger

          I don't thinnk Hezlitt is wanted in Washington.

          • Minuteman

            I know Hezlett is a freemason also…… They would help hide him.

          • MMetzger

            Can anyone be a freemason ? I’m not sure but I thought you had to have some kind of wealth or stature to be a Freemason ? If he is how do you know that ? would you elaborate on that ? Maybe it could help find him. I believe he is in Alaska. He had told Shawna and my niece that , that was where he was going for work. We believe when they robbed me and my moms friend that he was also involved but came here with his own car and left for Alaska. If anyone in Alaska or any wheres else the please contact your local police as there is a APB out on him !

  • mmetzger

    Laura How did you know Shawna ? I was just curious. Have I met you in the past ? If you want you can email me mmetzger47@yahoo.com

    • Advocate

      Merrill, Laura, was a victim of identity theft perpetrated against her by your sister in the past.

  • mmetzger

    Yeah !!!! LOL

  • Laura Ollis

    Great photo of a short, fat white woman dancing in the desert. LMAO

  • mmetzger

    Shawna and Roberta keep making things worse for each of them. Roberta is damaging Shawnas case even more everytime she post something new on her site, it just buries Shawna even deeper. The web site justiceforshawnaforde.com is a joke, and the more they put up on that site dumb stupid stories like Shawna was Anorexic, just shows how stupid Roberta Dill and John Lyon really are. These two give people the ideas that they really are stupid. I got to ask Roberta " How does it feel to be a laughing stalk of America ? HMMMMM ?