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William Gheen and ALIPAC ridicule the “Frustration of a legal immigrant”

Published on 05/11/2010 by
"Remember people, if you don't agree with my position, and help me rid y Amerika of those dirty Mexicans, I'll ban you from my site. And that means you Mr Anderson" - ALIPAC President William Gheen

"Remember people, if you don't agree with my position, and help me rid y Amerika of those dirty Mexicans, I'll ban you from my site. And that means you Mr Anderson" - ALIPAC President William Gheen

More proof of the bigotry and racism of ALIPAC’s own jabbering jackass, when he ridicules and bans someone trying to give a common sense and logical opinion from the perspective of a legal immigrant.

Steinar Andersen, a legal immigrant from Norway and an IT manager for a logistics firm in the Chicago area posted this letter on May 2, 2010 in the Chicago Tribune.

I am a legal immigrant. I walked the walk pursuing the American dream.

I came to this country legally. I learned to speak English (and slang so that I could fit in) because I wanted to excel in this country. I graduated from high school in Carpentersville. I served in the U.S. Marine Corps for almost seven years.

And I worked hard to gain my citizenship. I went through the process of standing in long Immigration and Naturalization Service lines, only to learn the federal agency had lost my file. I endured the insufferable malaise shown by U.S. government workers on the other side of the counter.

But in 1983, when I raised my hand during my citizenship ceremony in San Diego, I felt a rush of pride for accomplishing something that’s rare in the world. Gaining citizenship in this country is like hitting the lottery. Today, I proudly display my citizenship certificate in my home because I earned it through a process dictated by this country’s rule of law and I abided by that process as difficult as it was.

And then came the first immigration amnesty in 1986 and millions of illegal immigrants were given legal status, despite breaking the law.

My hard work was cheapened by their sheer numbers. Sure, some of them had worked hard. But they didn’t follow the rules and were given the same thing I had labored for years to gain.

I am frustrated the media does not carry the stories of immigrants like me. Yes, some illegal immigrants are taken advantage of by some employers and by some of the American populace (all one has to do is look at who is trimming the bushes and mowing the lawns).

It has been said that it’s impossible to deport 12 million illegal Immigrants. However, if a guest-worker program was in place and laws holding employers accountable for hiring illegal immigrants were enforced, then illegal immigrants would be forced to gain guest-worker status.

Amnesty? Sure, if they go through the guest-worker program first.

And why not institute a national ID card?

As for what Arizona just did out of pure frustration with the federal government, I cannot blame the lawmakers there. I worked in Arizona for more than a year and saw firsthand the uphill battle Arizona residents are going through.

I am not bigoted. I am not racist. I am tired being led astray by a media hellbent on demonizing hardworking Americans who only ask for one thing: a clear, definable immigration policy with no loopholes.

I am from Norway. I will be celebrating Syttende Mai in a couple of weeks, where I will be waving my Norwegian flag from the sidelines of the parade route in Park Ridge and singing the Norwegian national anthem in Norwegian. And then I will go home with my family, speaking English, pinching myself that I am an American and lucky to be so.

And I will keep praying that one day the voices of legal immigrants will be heard as loud as those who may be hardworking, good people, but who broke the law coming here.

You’d think this was the type of person ALIPAC would love to have on board. Right? Well, you’d be wrong.

Mr Anderson posted this on ALIPAC’s silly little site and it was immediately deleted. Mr Anderson asked why:

Why would a topic be deleted (started by someone else) that copied my Op_Ed in the Chicago Tribune from 05/02?

That I was forwarded a link to… to which I joined this forum in which to respond and talk to like minded individuals.

With no message to me or explanation?

trying to understand.

Being a legal immigrant, I would think my opinion to be of value here……

One would think so, but not Whining Willy. Mr Anderson made a fatal mistake. HE proposed a common sense solution. And Willy responded.

ALIPAC
ALIPAC President or Administrator
Joined: Nov 10, 2004
Posts: 34644

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 9:26 am Post subject:
Your support of the tired old shell game of a guest worker program Amnesty is not welcome here.

We know the talking points from the RNC and Globalists and hear them loud and clear even on Fox all day now.

We oppose any legalization in status for the millions of illegal aliens in America as legalization will lead to eventual voting rights that will destroy the borders of the US forever.

We favor attrition through enforcement. With the current levels of immigration enforcement growing on the state level, we should be able to reduce the illegal immigrant population to less than five million within the next 8 years.

If you are here to support a guest worker plan, you are in the wrong neighborhood.

W

Most of us are tired of Willies hysteria about immediate voting rights for those who would benefit from any type of legalization. Lies and more lies, from the master, Willy Gheen.

Mr Anderson comes back, polite and inquisitive. Norwegians are like that. I have a close friend that lives in Bergen and he and his family are wonderful people.

nteresting.

It was mentioned in the article (that someone else posted here). All I did was post (respectfully mind you) something which might be viable that eventually will make sure that illegals are slowly processed back to their homelands.

You are saying that I (as a legal immigrant) cannot say something possibly at odds with one aspect of your viewpoint?

Instead, you’d rather squelch any comments because it is at odds with your viewpoint?

/and to do it with no fanfare or message (just leave me in the dark as to what happened)

Wow……..

Indeed Mr Anderson. Wow! If you’re looking for decent and courteous discussion on ALIPAC, you’re definitely in the wrong place.

And then, another of Gheen’s mindless lemmings chimes in, proving something that Willy has been denying all along.

Richard
ALIPAC Super Hero

Joined: Apr 08, 2005
Posts: 4717
Location: Boston
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 9:42 am Post subject:
The board is the personal property of William Gheen though many people use it. The result is that what stays up is a projection of his opinion. If you wish I would not mind discussing your editorial but if so we would need to exchange emails. BTW I was not the person who posted it here.

Remember the denials of Gheen when posts about eliminating the President, disparaging remarks such as beaner, wetback and pepper belly appeared on the site directed at Hispanics and Willy was quick to jump in and balme outside forces, because the board is public and he has no control? Gotcha Willy!

About the same as his lame excuse for the video of him accusing Senator Lindsey Graham of being gay, and tagging the video on youtube with the words, “fag” and queer”, which he denied knowledge of.

Bravo for Mr. Anderson who came back, not in the least intimidated by the jabbering jackass himself.

SteinarAndersen
ALIPAC New Recruit!
Joined: May 11, 2010
Posts: 8
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 9:44 am Post subject:
ALIPAC:

You just proved in one act….. that your organization is not into respectful discussion.

Please completely delete my ID here (as it appears you do not allow members the opportunity to state a case for or against something).

I am stunned……. and be assured, this legal immigrant will take his voice elsewhere.

Last edited by SteinarAndersen on Wed May 12, 2010 9:45 am; edited 1 time in total

Your welcome here anytime Mr Anderson, even though we seem to be on opposite sides of the issue, I imagine we can find common ground. That is called compromise.

ALIPAC

ALIPAC President or Administrator
Joined: Nov 10, 2004
Posts: 34644
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 9:44 am Post subject:
anyone pushing a guest worker, temporary worker, path to citizenship, comprehensive immigration reform, etc….

Will find no quarter here.

W

Mr Anderson leaves Gheen and his lemmings with some good advice which of course will be ignored, as Gheen and his group continues to slip further into irrelevancy

I only came here because my article was reprinted here.

My name is Mr. Andersen. My first name is Steinar. I believe my 7 yrs in the Corps would have at least earned me enough time on the board to state my case.

Instead, be sure to keep surrounding yourself with like minded individuals and you will remain amongst a small majority while legal immigrants such as myself try to actually engage enough people to come up with a solution that works (before the democrats give us something which will be much worse).

Good day.

Mr Anderson. Thanks for your service to our country, from one vet to another. You’re welcome on this site at anytime. Perhaps if enough people join together for serious and open minded discussion, we’ll come up with a solution that suits everyone.

Mass deportations is not the answer nor is it logistically or financially feasible. Securing the border in the manner Gheen and his ilk demand will never happen. Gun towers, mine fields, shoot to kill orders and a military presence will not be tolerated. Anything else is open for discussion.
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  1. [...] William Gheen and ALIPAC ridicule the “Frustration of a legal immigrant”: Steinar Andersen, a legal immigrant from Norway and an IT manager for a logistics firm in the Chicago area posted this letter on May 2, 2010 in the Chicago Tribune, only to be quickly ridiculed and belittled by racist ALIPAC. [...]